Joshua Beytien wrote: When I saw a cutscene of Sly on a desert, I thought to myself "Could this be the fifth game of Sly Cooper?"
Not only that, but I've read rumours about the sanzaru games creating another Sly game, probably SC5. Could this be true or is it only coincidence?
If its true, will Penelope return to the Cooper gang for good after realizing her misunderstanding about Bentley and friends?
Can the other characters like the Guru and the Panda King make a comeback?
I just wanted to know if it is Sly 5 and make it happen so my mysteries can be solved.
Considering the ending, all signs point to yes. However, Thieves in Times might need to sell very well for that to happen. That is, if money is a factor here.
Joshua Beytien wrote: When I saw a cutscene of Sly on a desert, I thought to myself "Could this be the fifth game of Sly Cooper?"
Not only that, but I've read rumours about the sanzaru games creating another Sly game, probably SC5. Could this be true or is it only coincidence?
If its true, will Penelope return to the Cooper gang for good after realizing her misunderstanding about Bentley and friends?
Can the other characters like the Guru and the Panda King make a comeback?
I just wanted to know if it is Sly 5 and make it happen so my mysteries can be solved.
Considering the ending, all signs point to yes. However, Thieves in Times might need to sell very well for that to happen. That is, if money is a factor here.
Some part of me stiil think that there's more to penelope betrayal than we know and that it is the work a the time trilogy's main bad guy, probably clockwerk and maybe even Neyla
Joshua Beytien wrote: When I saw a cutscene of Sly on a desert, I thought to myself "Could this be the fifth game of Sly Cooper?"
Not only that, but I've read rumours about the sanzaru games creating another Sly game, probably SC5. Could this be true or is it only coincidence?
If its true, will Penelope return to the Cooper gang for good after realizing her misunderstanding about Bentley and friends?
Can the other characters like the Guru and the Panda King make a comeback?
I just wanted to know if it is Sly 5 and make it happen so my mysteries can be solved.
Considering the ending, all signs point to yes. However, Thieves in Times might need to sell very well for that to happen. That is, if money is a factor here.
Some part of me stiil think that there's more to penelope betrayal than we know and that it is the work a the time trilogy's main bad guy, probably clockwerk and maybe even Neyla
Neyla, probably not. Clockwerk, maybe, for all we know. It might be someone completely unrelated.
Joshua Beytien wrote:
So what's your point about the truth of Penelope's betrayal besides two bad guys?
I mean is that I'm sorry, but some part of me still think that there's more to penelope's betrayal than we know and that it is the work of the time trilogy's main bad guy, probably clockwerk and maybe even Neyla, for her manipulative ways, i mean it feels likes it would take something serious and mind blowing in order for her to become what we saw in Sly 4, i mean torturing Sir galleth through humiliaction on the big top and talking about using what's left of sly from the moat monster as a rug, sounds reeally dark, sociopathic ruthless even. i mean come on!
Joshua Beytien wrote: Well there must be someone lying to Penelope about Bentley, its one of my opinions for Sly 5.
Most likely. Her character is literally the opposite of how it was in Sly 3 to the point of ridiculousness. Also, now that I think about it, who's up for fighting Penelope in a "Black Beard" persona?
(Imbitating Foghorn Leghorn from Tweety's High Fly Adventure) Sly is fi - I say Sly is FINISHED! He's trapped in ancient Egypt and his pals don't know where he is! The gang's time machine is useless, because it requires items from a certain time 2 go there! (Unless they can find and put a mummy doll or at least anything Egyptian in the receptacle, they might have a close chance of saving Sly!) I hate 2 say this, but this looks like the end of the Sly Cooper series! RIP Sly Cooper, Thieves In Time was the best game ever of all.
Joshua Beytien wrote: That's a lie. Sly can make return in the fifth game. So this ain't over yet, pal.
Considering Sony wants to end the Sly Cooper and Ratchet and Clank franchises on the PS4, I guess one more game would be the only thing to look forward to at this point. That is, if there will even be one.
Joshua Beytien wrote: That's what I wanted to happen that Sly Cooper CAN make a return on a fifth game and that's final.
Now hold on. Sales might determine whether or not Sly even gets a fifth game. It's not that don't want another game. It's just that I feel that either the fourth or fifth game really will be the last game depending on how well the game does.
SlyFan100 wrote: (Imbitating Foghorn Leghorn from Tweety's High Fly Adventure) Sly is fi - I say Sly is FINISHED! He's trapped in ancient Egypt and his pals don't know where he is! The gang's time machine is useless, because it requires items from a certain time 2 go there! (Unless they can find and put a mummy doll or at least anything Egyptian in the receptacle, they might have a close chance of saving Sly!) I hate 2 say this, but this looks like the end of the Sly Cooper series! RIP Sly Cooper, Thieves In Time was the best game ever of all.
I'm pretty sure the Cooper gang knows people, mainly Dimitri, being a former meber of the Klaww gang, and it's not like Carmelita's a cop or anything. Sly's not an idiot, he can write a message in the Theivius Raccoonus. And then people will ask "How will Bentley know about the message?" the same way he found out things were being erased. Long Live Sly Cooper!
You guys go ahead with your goobledigooks about whether yes or no on Sly 5, I'm still gonna keep on giving ideas, comments and opinions for Sly 5 until it all comes true.
Joshua Beytien wrote: You guys go ahead with your goobledigooks about whether yes or no on Sly 5, I'm still gonna keep on giving ideas, comments and opinions for Sly 5 until it all comes true.
I guess I'll do the same, too. For an example, how about a weather system and day/night transitions that causes Sly's shadow to get bigger and smaller? It would add elements of danger and surprise depending on how Sanzaru implements this idea.
Also, why do I get the feeling that Victorian London will be Alice in Wonderland-related to some degree?
Joshua Beytien wrote: Maybe because the fans would expect its creatures and spirits - like for an example the Jabberwock; a monstrous foe from the darkness.
Having horses dressed as the Hatter for Flashlight Guards and hares and dormice as Rooftop guards would be perfect. Hopefully a wasp will be the boss of Victorian London. After all, an entire chapter in Through the Looking Glass that was scrapped from the book involved Alice meeting a wasp.
Joshua Beytien wrote:
Maybe because the fans would expect its creatures and spirits - like for an example the Jabberwock; a monstrous foe from the darkness.
And I just remembered that Alice in Wonderland was first published during the Victorian era, so this really does fit well.
Although I think your two methods for the Penelope boss would be far different that you might expect.
I chose only the Black Baron in Otto Van's time because it could be her last boss battle, between you and me, the Penelope is Sly 4 could be a imposter; her twin brother in disguise.
P.S. I figured four more villians in other times:
1. Captain Red Throat - a whale-hunting sea lion in a whaler's outfit.
2. Lord Coatl - a Ancient Atzec panther from the Amazon.
3. Hector the Horrible - a Irish rottweiler whose bite is more than just a dog's.
4. Obesandjo - a Nigerian jackal from Interpol's most wanted list.
Think about it this way. Black Beard would allow Penelope to have disguises associated with air (Black Baron), land (Black Knight), and sea (Black Beard). However, a Black Baron rematch would be mighty welcome if you ask me. I like your ideas, by the way. However, what's up with the sea lion? What time period would he be from?
The sea lion you asked? In Henrietta's time from Anglesey; a Welsh Island in the Irish Seas.
He has a England/English accent like an Old Salt.
And about the Black Beard? Perhaps your almost right because Henrietta's time isn't going to be big enough for two villians. So I'd say that Black Beard would be pushed out before Penelope returns to the Cooper Gang. Get it or not?
Joshua Beytien wrote: The sea lion you asked? In Henrietta's time from Anglesey; a Welsh Island in the Irish Seas.
He has a England/English accent like an Old Salt.
And about the Black Beard? Perhaps your almost right because Henrietta's time isn't going to be big enough for two villians. So I'd say that Black Beard would be pushed out before Penelope returns to the Cooper Gang. Get it or not?
Back on topic. I think that if Sly is gonna get a sequel it has to sell well. They also can't leave us with that cliffhanger. (I'm talking about the 100% ending) I believe that there will be a sequel. Sony did say that Sly would go onto the PS4, and end on the PS4
71.63.171.70 wrote: Back on topic. I think that if Sly is gonna get a sequel it has to sell well. They also can't leave us with that cliffhanger. (I'm talking about the 100% ending) I believe that there will be a sequel. Sony did say that Sly would go onto the PS4, and end on the PS4
I think Sly will put his calling card picture on somthing, or change somthing in Ancient Egypt to tell his friends where he is, then, they just have to find the Ancient peice, put it in the time machine, and rescue Sly. As for Penelope, anything thing can happen now!
Joshua Beytien wrote:
I'm not sure, probably it was her twin brother who knows. I'm only saying.
Now that i think about it, doesn't Penelope come off as a sort of mysterious to you? Background, skills, seems a little fishy, don't you think? I mean she was an a firm opponent of cheating back in sly 3, what could have happened to make her change her mind? I feel that it would take a little more than Bentley being "held back" by sly for her to go power-hungery, don't you think?
But hey guys think about it. If Penelope made a timetunnel, I'm sure she can find Sly.
And hey I just realized that if Le Paradox was able to change the location of the timetunnel, he should know where Sly is. I mean, his airflyingthing crashed, but the timetunnel still activated. So Cyrille should know where the timetunnel was made to go.
Bentley and the other gang could make Cyrille tell where the timetunnel went, find object from that area and POOF! Sly.
what if Cryille joins the cooper gang for a little just to help find sly but he was only allowed to talk to the gang though that device bently made for dimirti to talk to the gang
Yea, but look at it from my point of view. There are no water sources in ancient egypt! Without water and due 2 high heat generated by the sun, Sly's gonna perish! Thats Y I think this is the end for him. Le Paradox's time hole finished him off!
For Penelope, I hope that she does have another motive besids power, that would force her to become a villain. One of the main reasons the reveal of her as a villain threw me back was because how it contradicts her personality in the third game. I couldn't get over how she was the complete opposite. In the third game, she was kind, calm, and even had a small crush on Sly. In 4, she wanted to kill Sly, was incredibly brutal, and came of a bit immature as well. Although, I think it's unlikely she'll return as a hero. She was a good guy once, then betrayed the team. Turning her back into a good guy seems a bit contrived. On another note, I think Clockwerk would probably return in the next game. They hinted at it enough times. TBH though, I wish Neyla would return. I had a soft spot for her. And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the next game involves time travel either. Considering it was the plot for this game, I doubt they'd reuse it again so soon.
Random 2121 wrote: For Penelope, I hope that she does have another motive besids power, that would force her to become a villain. One of the main reasons the reveal of her as a villain threw me back was because how it contradicts her personality in the third game. I couldn't get over how she was the complete opposite. In the third game, she was kind, calm, and even had a small crush on Sly. In 4, she wanted to kill Sly, was incredibly brutal, and came of a bit immature as well. Although, I think it's unlikely she'll return as a hero. She was a good guy once, then betrayed the team. Turning her back into a good guy seems a bit contrived. On another note, I think Clockwerk would probably return in the next game. They hinted at it enough times. TBH though, I wish Neyla would return. I had a soft spot for her. And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the next game involves time travel either. Considering it was the plot for this game, I doubt they'd reuse it again so soon.
true, but the fans want to use the other 5 main ancestors, so i reckon if people want it, they'll do it.
Random 2121 wrote: For Penelope, I hope that she does have another motive besids power, that would force her to become a villain. One of the main reasons the reveal of her as a villain threw me back was because how it contradicts her personality in the third game. I couldn't get over how she was the complete opposite. In the third game, she was kind, calm, and even had a small crush on Sly. In 4, she wanted to kill Sly, was incredibly brutal, and came of a bit immature as well. Although, I think it's unlikely she'll return as a hero. She was a good guy once, then betrayed the team. Turning her back into a good guy seems a bit contrived. On another note, I think Clockwerk would probably return in the next game. They hinted at it enough times. TBH though, I wish Neyla would return. I had a soft spot for her. And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the next game involves time travel either. Considering it was the plot for this game, I doubt they'd reuse it again so soon.
true, but the fans want to use the other 5 main ancestors, so i reckon if people want it, they'll do it.
although i dont think they will have connor. but it would be nice if they got more creative with unlockable skins- a connor outfit for sly, a sly 3 bentley, a McSweeney skin for murray and maybe a neyla skin for carm? something like that
Zako11 wrote: although i dont think they will have connor. but it would be nice if they got more creative with unlockable skins- a connor outfit for sly, a sly 3 bentley, a McSweeney skin for murray and maybe a neyla skin for carm? something like that
That sounds awesome!! If they do this, I'll be really happy.
Zako11 wrote: although i dont think they will have connor. but it would be nice if they got more creative with unlockable skins- a connor outfit for sly, a sly 3 bentley, a McSweeney skin for murray and maybe a neyla skin for carm? something like that
That sounds awesome!! If they do this, I'll be really happy.
well if someone strings all good ideas together onto one document and sends it to them, it would at least give them ideas to use
Zako11 wrote: although i dont think they will have connor. but it would be nice if they got more creative with unlockable skins- a connor outfit for sly, a sly 3 bentley, a McSweeney skin for murray and maybe a neyla skin for carm? something like that
That sounds awesome!! If they do this, I'll be really happy.
well if someone strings all good ideas together onto one document and sends it to them, it would at least give them ideas to use
That is, if they even can. Sales can make or break any plans for a series.
Zako11 wrote: although i dont think they will have connor. but it would be nice if they got more creative with unlockable skins- a connor outfit for sly, a sly 3 bentley, a McSweeney skin for murray and maybe a neyla skin for carm? something like that
That sounds awesome!! If they do this, I'll be really happy.
well if someone strings all good ideas together onto one document and sends it to them, it would at least give them ideas to use
That is, if they even can. Sales can make or break any plans for a series.
well if it sells as many as the collection i think a sequel is guarenteed.
Random 2121 wrote: For Penelope, I hope that she does have another motive besids power, that would force her to become a villain. One of the main reasons the reveal of her as a villain threw me back was because how it contradicts her personality in the third game. I couldn't get over how she was the complete opposite. In the third game, she was kind, calm, and even had a small crush on Sly. In 4, she wanted to kill Sly, was incredibly brutal, and came of a bit immature as well. Although, I think it's unlikely she'll return as a hero. She was a good guy once, then betrayed the team. Turning her back into a good guy seems a bit contrived. On another note, I think Clockwerk would probably return in the next game. They hinted at it enough times. TBH though, I wish Neyla would return. I had a soft spot for her. And I wouldn't be so quick to assume that the next game involves time travel either. Considering it was the plot for this game, I doubt they'd reuse it again so soon.
true, but the fans want to use the other 5 main ancestors, so i reckon if people want it, they'll do it.
You never know, they might release other time periods as DLC. That might be a good idea. It'd save having to release another game with a similar plot. Granted I don't think that they could release all other popular ancestors, probably just 1 or 2.
in sly 5 that penelope returns but as a good person and forgive and tosos the Carmelite and her very best friends over time and in some missions see increasing their trust and brotherhood among them
Joshua Beytien wrote:
So what's your point about the truth of Penelope's betrayal besides two bad guys?
I mean is that I'm sorry, but some part of me still think that there's more to penelope's betrayal than we know and that it is the work of the time trilogy's main bad guy, probably clockwerk and maybe even Neyla, for her manipulative ways, i mean it feels likes it would take something serious and mind blowing in order for her to become what we saw in Sly 4, i mean torturing Sir galleth through humiliaction on the big top and talking about using what's left of sly from the moat monster as a rug, sounds reeally dark, sociopathic ruthless even. i mean come on!
Well, let's face it, she used to blow people up in airplanes for fun. I wouldn't put it past her (by the way, I saw her betraying them way at the beginning of the game).
Joshua Beytien wrote:
So what's your point about the truth of Penelope's betrayal besides two bad guys?
I mean is that I'm sorry, but some part of me still think that there's more to penelope's betrayal than we know and that it is the work of the time trilogy's main bad guy, probably clockwerk and maybe even Neyla, for her manipulative ways, i mean it feels likes it would take something serious and mind blowing in order for her to become what we saw in Sly 4, i mean torturing Sir galleth through humiliation on the big top and talking about using what's left of sly from the moat monster as a rug, sounds really dark, sociopathic ruthless even. i mean come on!
Well, let's face it, she used to blow people up in airplanes for fun. I wouldn't put it past her (by the way, I saw her betraying them way at the beginning of the game).
point of a dogfight contest, right? sides, what is her background before the black baron?
Look penelope sly in the beginning of March was a good person, maybe when penelope went something important laboratory for definitive enemy sly some brainwashed him to penelope order to do all those things
SlyFan100 wrote: (Imbitating Foghorn Leghorn from Tweety's High Fly Adventure) Sly is fi - I say Sly is FINISHED! He's trapped in ancient Egypt and his pals don't know where he is! The gang's time machine is useless, because it requires items from a certain time 2 go there! (Unless they can find and put a mummy doll or at least anything Egyptian in the receptacle, they might have a close chance of saving Sly!) I hate 2 say this, but this looks like the end of the Sly Cooper series! RIP Sly Cooper, Thieves In Time was the best game ever of all.
ah that is where you are wrong. sure sly is trapped in egypt but that's the storyline of the 5th game right there. you'll be playing as sly finding his way back to paris. and the main villan will be le paradox. he said as much himself that he'll find le paradox and make him pay for stranding him in time.