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  • I'd liek to hear your consent about this but, I was thinking, imagine a minor crossover between Sly and these particular disney attractions: Big Thunder Mountain railroad, and the Haunted Mansion (Phantom Manor being the European version of the ride)?

    This crossover involves Thaddeus Winslow Cooper III and "Tennessee Kid" Cooper having their own brush with the Supernatural and the paranormal,

    Thaddeus' side of the Crossover is primarilly centering around the Haunted Mansion, Known as Gracey Manor according to fans and some merchandise. While it's supposed to be located in louisiana, Gracey Manor is in England in this crossover for several reasons: convenience and because the interior of the mansion inthe ride as well as the ghosts look more british than american.

    For Tennessee's.side of the Story, it actually involves BOTH Phantom Manor and Big Thunder mountain railroad.

    For Thaddeus, He came to the mansion to visit Master Gracey, who in this crossover was a very obscure friend of thaddeus in the past, the story that unfolds is an agitha christie/conan-doyle styled mystery story that also features elements taken from both unused concepts and existing or former scenes from the ride itself. May involve an appearance of Sir Galleth who replaces the Headless knight in the ride.

    For Tennesse Kid, He had been tracking down an outlaw for days and his search led him the abandoned town of Thunder Mesa, The outlaw and his gang are hidden in the mansion, obviously not heeding the warnings of the places being so haunted, the toughest man in the west could go in there and flee in terror the next morning, The outlaw's justification for hiding int he mansion is that he, "ain't afraid of no ghost.".

    Tennessee, though, it a bit more hesitant about the place, even with allt he rumurs and wanrings about ravenswood mansion, he still has an outlaw to track and has no choice but to enter the mansion anyways not knowing of the drama that will unfold.

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  •  That is, Each of the time periods (except the old west) exhibiting High-Fantasy elements in them, such as magic, magic users, races (anthropomorphic substitutes of elves, dwarves, hobbits, and fairies, etc), deities, and mythical or fantasy creatures all of which correspond with the theme of the time period and freely interact with the people in that time period. Magic and supernatural phenomena already exist in the sly trilogy, so what would be your reaction if Thieves in Time was more Historic Fantasy than Time travel?

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    • I probably wouldn't mind if there was magic. As you said, the Sly series is no stranger to the supernatural.

      The elves and whatnot, though, no thanks.

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    • Teenbat wrote:
      I probably wouldn't mind if there was magic. As you said, the Sly series is no stranger to the supernatural.

      The elves and whatnot, though, no thanks.

      So you don't agree with the idea of High Fantasy themes appearing in the time periods? Though it is possible to have real world anmals or even mythical/fantasy fauna to substitute races. We can have Deer for elves, moles for dwarves, hamsters for hobbits/gnomes, and Insects for fairies.

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  • Hey, it's been a while. Hope you're doing well and everything here is doing fine also. Just wanted to share some news regarding an animated series: http://www.animationmagazine.net/tv/technicolor-sony-team-on-cg-sly-cooper-series/.

    It's certainly no Sly 5, but I'll take it.

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  • Hi Teenbat, I would like to know your thoughts on a potential main page design. You can view it here. As you can see, I didn't add or remove any modules but did alter their positions and looks slightly. My goal, aside from providing a change of face, was to give the templates and main page a cleaner look by having less empty space and making each module more distinct and separate. These new templates also use the wiki-wide font (Helvetica / Arial) rather than Verdana. Additionally, many "more" links, such as those in the featured article or featured media modules, have been positioned at the bottom-right. I will now go through each module and explain more specific changes.

    Left side:

    • Intro: Some changes to wording. Removed mention of founding date and replaced total page count with count of images and videos.
    • About: A new module. Meant to provide a visitor with an introduction to the wiki's subject matter. This is said to be beneficial for wiki SEO.
    • Featured article: No changes. Though, in the sample shown, the image is positioned on the left instead of on the right.
    • Did you know: No changes.
    • Featured media: No changes.
    • Forum activity: This is now a list of the most recent forum posts rather than just simply an image with the link to the forum. The link to the forum is still present though.
    • Tabber: This tabber combines four modules into one: contributing, tasks, wiki projects, and affiliates. Not only does this save space and allow for a cleaner main page, it also makes sense to have these together; with the exception of affiliates, the other three tabs all have information that is relevant to editors. A bit of a side note, but we might even be able to get rid of the tasks and projects tabs as we have the community page.
      The affiliates module abandons the image collage for a text list. However, if part of the affiliation agreement is that the wiki's logo must be present, please let me know.

    Right side:

    • News: Using CSS, I made the blog headlines less huge and also removed the poster's avatar; I thought that the avatar was a unnecessary use of space.
    • Poll: Remains almost the same. The only change is that the border surrounding the poll is removed.

    That concludes all of the changes. Please let me know what you like and don't like. Thank you for reading.

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    • Thanks, I'm glad you like it.

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    • Took me forever to get around to it (time gets away from you when you get a new job) but I finally changed the wordmark to simply be just the black and white Sly Cooper logo. I also added a header image, which is the thing on the right side of the navigation bar. Mostly just a test, but I kind of like it.

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  • I also come to this wiki to whine about:

    - Historical inaccuracies

    - How many of the fans, especially ones who write fanfics regarding the ancestors, have little to no grasp on human history, and end up incorporating even worse historical inaccuracies in their fanfics.

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    • Sly Cooper is fiction. Historical inaccuracies don't matter in a fictional universe.

      Essentially the rule is this: can you provide an in-game source for your information? If not (if the source comes from without the series, i.e., Wikipedia) then it doesn't belong here. Obviously, real world articles, such as actors or companies, are different.

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    • Teenbat wrote:
      Sly Cooper is fiction. Historical inaccuracies don't matter in a fictional universe.

      Essentially the rule is this: can you provide an in-game source for your information? If not (if the source comes from without the series, i.e., Wikipedia) then it doesn't belong here. Obviously, real world articles, such as actors or companies, are different.

      There is such thing as historical fiction

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    • You're right, but Sly Cooper is not that.

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  • I highly doubt that thaddeus and Tennessee are directly related, given that Tennessee kid was unfamilliar with the existence of british english in Sly 4.

    Maybe it would be better if you edited both their articles and said that thaddeus and tennessee are the result of the cooper lineage diverging at some point but with thaddeus's line surviving.

    Also Otto Van cooper, being dutch, He couldn't have fought for germany, as the Netherlands was neutral in WW1, also change it so that he didnt fly for germany, but was conscripted into the Central powers instead, since germny wasnt the only one fighting. 

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    • Teenbat wrote:

      Benjohn132 wrote:
      HOW THE **** IS THE NETHERLANDS BEING NEUTRAL SPECULATIVE???????

      Keep the language civil, please.

      You are speculating in a daisy-chain. We can assume that Otto is from Denmark because of his last name. However, we have no knowledge regarding his alliances in the war, so posting information regarding the Netherlands' alliance (or lack thereof) and whether or not he fought with the Central Powers is irrelevant. All of this speculation sprung from two details: the preposition "van" and Sly mentioning that Otto was a fighter ace. We actually don't even know if he fought in the first world war.

      I understand that you have a passion for history, but this is not Wikipedia, so we keep real world information to a minimum. That isn't me trying to shut you down; it is an issue that has come up before, and a decision was reached. This is our (the community's) decision.

      i think its better to assume that he was in germany durign the time war was declared and seeing no way to return to the netherlands, had no choice but to conscribe tot he air force of the central powers.

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    • There's the word: assumption. Don't do it on the articles. In threads and message boards and on Reddit (I'm pretty sure that's you, anyway), but not on our primary content.

      This is a wiki about Sly Cooper, not fan theories. I can direct you to the Sly Cooper Fan Fiction Wiki, where that sort of thing is encouraged.

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  • Carmelitasymbol

    Her Symbol from the door to her office in Sly 1.

    It's an absolute wonder as to why this symbol was never adopted to be her thief meter icon in future titles

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  • Thank for helping me with the Sly Cooper and the Thievius Raccoonus article. Really appreciate it. 😊

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  • Thought up the idea of crossing over legend of zelda with sly cooper, in my own way.

    This is sort of both an alternate history/crossover thing i thought up, but in this situation, Various lands and anthropomorphic versions of races from the zelda franchise exist across medieval europe and in some cases, the Americas. Hyrule in medieval england, Termina in france, Holodrum in Wales, Labrynna in Spain, and Lorule in Germany. This would be primarilly set in the medieval times.

    the reason why hyrule would not exist in the modern day, is because this version of hyrule is based on hyrule in the downfall timeline, where it actually declined in the original NES/SNES games,

    This is an original story that has no connection with other zelda games. The Bottom line here is Sir galleth and his knights teaming up with link to stop ganon and save princess zelda and the tri force.

    Hylians are depicted as humans with elf like ears in the original games but here i have to anthropomophize them to suit the setting better. Ganon and soem of the enemies in the story wouldnt need to be changed owing to the fact that Ganon is sometimes depicted as a boar-like demon, and some of the monsters, such as moblins, darknuts, wizzrobes,and, lizalfos already look like animals.

    It'd be interesting to see how a stereotypical medieval knight such as sir galleth would interact with link and the world of Zelda. His bombastic and overdramatic personality can annoy link and get them into hot water at times but sir galleth's skills can help link on his quest as well. 

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  • We all know that Caveman "Bob" Cooper was the first known cooper in history but think of the idea of the existence of a Cooper common ancestor. a cooper that predates "bob" and all other coopers. The true first cooper. 

    The idea here is that any mention to this common ancestor tends to be very vague since this Cooper lived in a precursor civilization that cropped up following the K-T extinction and predates the ice age by a millennia. Any record of that civilization was lost after an unknown catastrophe destroyed it. The only way his existence was ever acknowledged by the Coopers was through visitations in dreams and very scarce mentionings in the Thevius Raccoonus.

    His name is only comprised of just one letter: "C"

    It has been theorized that He was somehow responsible for the eternal feud between Clockwerk and the Cooper descendants, the catastrophe that destroyed said precursor civilization, and the beginnings of the Cooper line of thieves.

    Clockwerk and "F" hailed from technologically advanced Atlantis, "C" hailed from more mystical Lemuria. 

    Based on a certain headcanon that states that clockwerk was created from technology that came from an advanced precursor civilization that predates the ice age, since he appeared in Gungathal valley in Sly 4. Using the old lost continent theory and since gungathal valley is in prehistoric australia, "C" and his descendants would have migrated to Australia following the destruction of Lemuria.


    so imagine le paradox's meltdown when sending minions to that era only to find that this ancestor possesses no physical cane and said "cane" is actually a Birthmark this cementing the fact that he can never truly erase the coopers.

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    • Is the "unknown catastrophe" the Great Flood? Are the mentions in the Thievius Raccoonus based on the dream visitations? Because otherwise why would C have even scarce mentions if Bob has none? And if the cane is a birthmark, is it just coincidence that Bob invented his own that was, through time, developed into the cane we know today?

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    • Teenbat wrote:
      Is the "unknown catastrophe" the Great Flood? Are the mentions in the Thievius Raccoonus based on the dream visitations? Because otherwise why would C have even scarce mentions if Bob has none? And if the cane is a birthmark, is it just coincidence that Bob invented his own that was, through time, developed into the cane we know today?

      Yes, it's the Great flood (They can add biblical events if they wanted to).

      He isnt seen by all coopers though. Only coopers starting with slytukhamen. Bob would have been so preoccupied with survival that those dreams dont cross his mind or it was easily forgotten due to oral knowledge being prevalent in the prehistoric times.

      Perhaps, and it's also based on both a lemurian staff and a sheperds crook (C was originally a young sheperd before he learnt of his unwilling fate to become a thief.)

      being the first, I imagine C being on the same moral compass as anyone else regarding tealing (stealing is wrong) and originally didnt want to be a master thief, until that destiny hit him like a brick wall after a "heist" in atlantis. He was only trying to take matters into his own hands (he was trying to expose political conspiracies in the governemnt) when the authorties didnt and ended up wrongfully being branded a thief.

      Another thing here is that the stealth aura was a permanent side effect of being exposed to Lemurian Stealth magic.

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    • But everybody, non-Coopers included, see auras. It was a nice story detail from the first game that was dropped the second they added new characters.

      With biblical events come biblical figures. So somehow after Noah came cavemen and the ice age.

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      But everybody, non-Coopers included, see auras. It was a nice story detail from the first game that was dropped the second they added new characters.

      With biblical events come biblical figures. So somehow after Noah came cavemen and the ice age.

      i stick with its depiction in the first game.

      i would assume that after noah, civilization was forced to reset itself, but its a sly game, what do you expect, if they can add dinosaurs in the ice age, they can a pre-ice age antediluvian time period if they wished (dinosaurs would be more prominent in this setting though): 

      http://orig06.deviantart.net/8b67/f/2015/210/d/2/antediluvia_by_void_wolf-d93db6s.png

      you can already see which continent sly's common ancestor would hail from. And here, This common ancestor predates bob by 1,000 years

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